I had a terrible vaginal delivery with my first LO and ended up with a epi and tear that amounted to a 4th degree mess seeing as how I pushed for 2 1/2 hrs with nothing. Now I have issues with weak bowels and pelvic floor (sorry, tmi). Is it possible to get an epi with a spinal so you are totally numb during delivery? I felt everything with my epi and was totally pissed. Has anyone received a spinal for a vag delivery without getting it for a c-section?